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Weider

Weider is the oldest name in this catalogue by a wide margin. The brand traces back to the earliest days of commercial bodybuilding nutrition, and that heritage is genuinely part of what you are buying, because it shapes both the pricing and the product philosophy. Weider products here run from twenty four to fifty one pounds and sit at the premium end of every category they appear in.

The seven products we stock are unusually concentrated: four creatines and three amino acid products, and nothing else. There is no Weider protein on this site. What that means in practice is that a decision about Weider is mostly a decision about which form of creatine you believe in, and that is a question with a clear evidence based answer that does not always favour the expensive option.

The seven Weider products stocked in the UK arranged by creatine form and amino acid type, with the evidence position marked against each creatine variant

The Weider range we stock

Seven Weider products, four of them creatine in different chemical or branded forms.

Product What it is Category Price
Weider Maximum Krea Genic Krea Genic powder in the alternative tub size creatine £51.00
Weider Krea Genic plus PTK 208 tabs Krea Genic creatine pyruvate with PTK, in tablet form creatine £50.00
Weider Creatine HCL Creatine hydrochloride, marketed on solubility rather than on outcomes creatine £49.00
Weider Premium Amino A multi source amino acid product covering the essentials amino acids and BCAA £43.00
Weider Maximum Krea Genic 554 g The powder version of Krea Genic, 554 gram tub creatine £42.00
Weider Arginine and Ornithine 4000 Arginine paired with ornithine at four grams combined amino acids and BCAA £27.00
Weider L Carnitine L carnitine, the cheapest single item in the Weider range here amino acids and BCAA £24.00

Three of the four Weider creatines are Krea Genic variants at different sizes and formats, which makes the range look larger than it is. The genuine choices are between Krea Genic, plain creatine HCL, and the three amino acid products.

Choosing from the Weider range

Buying Weider well means separating what the brand does uniquely from what it charges a premium to do ordinarily.

If you want a Weider creatine

Decide on format before form. The Krea Genic tablets remove the mixing problem entirely and that is worth something to people who will otherwise skip doses. The powders are cheaper per serving. Between creatine HCL and Krea Genic, neither has demonstrated superiority over plain monohydrate in controlled comparison, so pick on tolerance and convenience rather than on the chemistry story.

If you are cost sensitive about creatine

Do not buy Weider. Buy monohydrate. Our creatine category has monohydrate from nineteen pounds for five hundred grams, and monohydrate is the form with several hundred controlled trials behind it. Paying forty two to fifty one pounds for a branded variant with a fraction of that evidence is a preference, not an upgrade.

If you want the amino acid products

Premium Amino is the most defensible of the three, because a multi source essential amino acid product does something a BCAA cannot. The arginine and ornithine product is the one to think hardest about, for reasons set out in the ingredients section below.

If you are new to all of this

Start elsewhere. Protein and plain creatine cover most of the available benefit, and Weider does not compete on either at these prices. Come back to the brand when you know exactly which niche you are filling.

What is actually inside

The Weider range turns on three ingredient questions, and being honest about all three is more useful than repeating the marketing.

Creatine HCL. Creatine bound to hydrochloric acid is far more soluble in water than monohydrate, which is a real and measurable property. The inference sold on top of it, that better solubility means better absorption and therefore better results at a smaller dose, is not supported by outcome data. Monohydrate is already absorbed at close to complete efficiency, so there is very little headroom for a more soluble form to exploit. The genuine use case for HCL is people who get bloating or stomach discomfort from monohydrate, and that is a minority.

Krea Genic and creatine pyruvate. Pyruvate bound creatine has been studied, and the results are mixed rather than absent. Some work has found effects on endurance related markers that monohydrate did not show, and other work has found nothing beyond what the creatine content alone would predict. The PTK component adds further ingredients aimed at transport. The reasonable position is that this is a legitimate product that has not been shown to beat monohydrate at a matched creatine dose, sold at more than twice monohydrate’s price.

Arginine and ornithine. Arginine is a nitric oxide precursor and that is where the pump story comes from. The problem is pharmacokinetic: oral arginine is heavily metabolised by arginase in the gut wall and liver before it reaches circulation, so plasma arginine rises much less than the dose suggests. This is precisely why citrulline overtook arginine in serious pre workout formulation, because citrulline bypasses that first pass and raises plasma arginine more effectively than arginine itself does. If you want the effect this product is aimed at, citrulline malate is the better tool.

Premium Amino escapes this scepticism because a broad essential amino acid product does not depend on a mechanism claim. It supplies material the body needs, and if your protein intake is short it will help. If your protein intake is adequate it will not, and that is true of every amino acid product from every brand.

Dosing and timing

Whatever form you use, creatine dosing is governed by muscle saturation rather than by the brand on the tub. Three to five grams of creatine daily saturates muscle stores within three to four weeks, and a loading phase of around twenty grams a day for five days only shortens the time to get there.

Read the creatine content per serving on the Weider Krea Genic and HCL labels rather than the serving weight, because bound forms carry a non creatine partner molecule. A gram of creatine HCL is not a gram of creatine, and the difference is the part the front label is quietest about.

The tablets are the easiest to dose accurately and the easiest to take consistently, which for creatine is the variable that actually decides whether it works for you. Consistency beats optimisation here by a wide margin.

Premium Amino is typically taken around training or spread through the day. Arginine and ornithine products are sold for pre training use and, if you take them at all, that is the timing the labelling assumes. Carnitine needs daily consistency over weeks rather than an acute dose, for the reasons covered on our L carnitine category page.

How Weider compares here

Weider is the premium position in this catalogue and it is worth seeing what that premium buys against the alternatives.

Brand Strongest here Typical price position Best for
Weider Creatine formats and heritage Highest in the creatine category Buyers committed to a branded creatine form
Peak Protocol Monohydrate and Creapure at lower cost Mid Getting the evidenced dose cheaply
Chevron Nutrition Cheapest creatine per gram Lowest here Cost per serving above all
Czech Virus Creapure sourced monohydrate Mid Documented raw material at a fair price
SAN Nutrition Buffered and modified creatine Mid to upper Comparing the alternative forms directly

The fair summary is that Weider makes good products at prices that assume the name matters to you. For creatine specifically, the cheapest tub of monohydrate in our catalogue has more evidence behind it than the most expensive tub of anything else.

Labelling, testing and UK rules

Creatine is one of the few sports ingredients with an authorised health claim in Great Britain. The GB nutrition and health claims register permits a statement that creatine increases physical performance in successive bursts of short term high intensity exercise, conditional on a daily intake of three grams and on the claim being addressed to adults performing high intensity exercise.

That claim attaches to creatine as a substance. It does not attach to a particular branded form, and a product may only use it if the serving delivers the required three grams of creatine. This is a useful test to apply to any bound creatine: work out the actual creatine content per serving and see whether it clears the bar the regulation sets.

Arginine, ornithine and L carnitine carry no authorised claims. Neither does any amino acid blend. The Food Standards Agency guidance on food supplements explains the framework, and the Food Supplements (England) Regulations 2003 set the underlying rules on what a supplement may contain and how it must be presented.

Who it suits, and who should skip it

Weider suits people who have already established that plain creatine monohydrate does not agree with them, and who want a well made alternative from a company that has been doing this longer than almost anyone. That is a real customer and this is a good answer for them.

It suits people who value tablets over powders enough to pay for the convenience, which is a more rational preference than it sounds, because a supplement you take every day beats a better supplement you take three times a week.

It does not suit a first purchase, a tight budget, or anyone who wants the maximum evidence per pound spent. On that last measure the answer is monohydrate from whichever brand is cheapest on the day, and our page on what the evidence actually supports goes through the reasoning.

Buying Weider in the UK

Weider stock is held and dispatched in the UK, with same working day dispatch on orders placed before the afternoon cut off. Nothing here ships from outside the country, so there is no customs exposure on your order.

Creatine of any form is stable as a dry powder or tablet and unstable in solution, converting slowly to creatinine once mixed. Keep the tub sealed, keep it out of a humid kitchen, and mix each serving fresh rather than carrying a pre made bottle around for a day.

Tablets have one practical advantage worth mentioning at the point of purchase: they travel without a scoop, without spillage and without the tub. If you train while working away, that is often what decides whether the second half of the tub gets used.

The returns position on unopened items and the delivery timings are on shipping and returns.

Common questions

Is Weider creatine HCL better than monohydrate?

It is more soluble, which is verifiable, and that is where the demonstrated advantage stops. Monohydrate is already absorbed near completely, so a more soluble form has little room to improve on it, and controlled comparisons have not shown better performance outcomes. HCL is genuinely useful if monohydrate upsets your stomach.

What is Krea Genic and what does PTK add?

Krea Genic is Weider’s creatine pyruvate based formulation, and PTK refers to the accompanying transport components in the blend. Creatine pyruvate has been studied with mixed results and has not been shown to beat monohydrate at a matched creatine dose.

Why is Weider more expensive than the other brands here?

Brand heritage, branded ingredient forms, and a positioning decision. The raw materials in a creatine are largely commodity, so the price difference reflects what is on the tub more than what is in it.

Does arginine and ornithine work for pumps?

Oral arginine is broken down extensively in the gut and liver before it reaches the bloodstream, so plasma arginine rises far less than the dose implies. Citrulline avoids that first pass problem and raises plasma arginine more effectively, which is why it replaced arginine in serious pre workout formulas.

How much actual creatine is in a Krea Genic serving?

Less than the serving weight, because pyruvate and any transport ingredients make up part of it. Check the creatine figure in the nutrition panel rather than the total scoop weight, and compare it against the three gram daily intake the authorised claim requires.

Should I take Weider L carnitine before training?

Timing is not the issue with carnitine. Raising muscle carnitine content requires consistent daily intake over weeks, and a single dose before a session does not meaningfully change what is in the muscle. Take it daily or do not take it.

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